James Kalm adopts his art historian hat to bring viewers this documentation. On the evening of October 23, 2008 a panel discussion ART IS COMMUNICATION IT IS THE ABILITY TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE was held at the Art Directors Club to discuss the ideas behind the Keller Gates Project. The panel was moderated by journalist Gabriel Sherman and included: Klaus Biesenbach,Chief Curator of the Department of Media at the Museum of Modern Art, and Chief Curatorial Advisor at PS1; Anne Pasternak, President and Artistic Director of Creative Time; Lauren Cornell, Executive Director of Rhizome and Adjunct Curator at the New Museum; and Mario Naves, artist, critic and writer for The New York Observer. This video is excerpts from that discussion. Because cameras and recordings were forbidden, the framing and sound quality are less than optimal.